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Do you strive for perfection because you think that God will not love you if you are anything less? Join us this week as we discuss the freedom we can experience when we understand it is God who perfects us.
 
Bethany Broderick, speaker and author of Perfected: Trading Shame and Striving for Wholeness in Christ, joins Angela for a deep dive into Hebrews 10:14. Together, they explore how Jesus’ once-for-all sacrifice frees us from shame, striving, and the pressure to earn God’s love. Bethany shares her personal journey from self-made religion to resting in Christ’s perfection, and offers practical encouragement for women who long to experience true wholeness and freedom in their daily walk with God.
 
Episode Highlights
Angela and Bethany discuss the context of Hebrews, focusing on how the book calls believers to let go of self-made religion and trust in Jesus’ finished work.
They unpack Hebrews 10:14, clarifying what it means to be “perfected for all time” while still being “sanctified,” and how this truth transforms our view of obedience, shame, and spiritual growth.
Bethany explains how to identify the lies that drive striving and shame, and how to replace them with the truth of God’s Word and the support of Christian community.
The conversation closes with practical steps for living out gospel freedom and finding rest in Christ’s perfection, even in the midst of daily imperfection.
Great Quotes 
“Jesus is better than any sacrifice you can offer him. Jesus is the fulfillment of all these things we see in the Old Testament.”
“We are perfected for all time, but we are also being sanctified—both are the gracious work of Christ.”
“It’s about the work Christ has done for us, not the work we do for him.”
“Our feelings shouldn’t be the thermostat setting the standard of truth, but they are a helpful thermometer to show us what’s going on in our hearts.”
 
Resources Mentioned
Scripture Focus: Hebrews 10:14 
Book: Perfected: Trading Shame and Striving for Wholeness in Christ by Bethany Broderick (Amazon Affiliate Link)
Bethany’s Website: bethanybroderick.com
 
Related Episodes
Ep. 14: “Growing Deep Roots in Jesus” (Lisa Meiners) 
Ep. 12: “Unswerving Hope” (Holly Piorkowski) 
Ep. 15: “Finding Peace because Grace Abounds” (Julie Sanders) 
 
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Have you ever wondered how you would get through a deep dark season? Join us as we discuss how rejoicing in hope, persevering in affliction, and devoting yourself to prayer can help you through the dark times.
 
Nicole Clark, founder of Twelve 12 Ministries and co-host of the Purpose Beyond Motherhood podcast, joins Angela to share her journey from professional dancer to ministry leader. Drawing from Romans 12:12, Nicole unpacks how to rejoice in hope, be patient in affliction, and be persistent in prayer—especially in seasons of infertility, loss, and waiting. Nicole’s story is a testimony to God’s kindness in transforming pain into purpose and finding joy in both family and ministry.
 
Episode Highlights
Nicole shares how God has taught her to embrace both her calling as a mother and her passion for supporting women facing infertility and loss.
Angela and Nicole discuss the context of Romans, focusing on Paul’s practical encouragement to live out faith with a renewed mind and transformed heart.
The conversation explores Romans 12:12, breaking down what it means to rejoice in hope, be patient in affliction, and be persistent in prayer, even when life doesn’t go as planned.
Nicole shares how God called her to start Twelve 12 Ministries after her own journey through infertility and loss, and how every believer can find purpose and make an impact—whether it’s for one person or many.
Practical encouragement for listeners: everyone has a unique purpose, and living out hope, patience, and prayer in daily life can open doors to share God’s love and spark revival in unexpected places.
Great Quotes 
“We all have a purpose to love God, love others, and make disciples.”
“God didn’t give you what you thought was the desire of your heart, but He gave you a new desire.”
“Rejoice in hope means we have an expectation—God is good, and even if we never see it this side of heaven, He is working all things out.”
“Be devoted to prayer—no matter what that prayer looks like, in whatever season you are.”
Resources Mentioned
Scripture Focus: Romans 12:12
1212 Ministries: weare1212.org – Support for women and families facing infertility, miscarriage, and loss.
Podcast: Purpose Beyond Motherhood (co-hosted by Nicole Clark and Holly Piorkowski)
 
Related Episodes
Ep. 12: “Unswerving Hope” (Holly Piorkowski) 
Ep. 6: “The Steadfast Love of the Lord” (Kim Cusimano) 
Ep. 13: “Sowing in Tears, Reaping in Joy” (Kristi Lowe)
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Have you ever wondered if God has a purpose for you?
 
Cassidy Cowin, a recent high school graduate and administrative assistant called to ministry, joins Angela to discuss 2 Timothy 1:14. In a season of waiting and discernment, Cassidy shares how the Holy Spirit empowers believers to guard the faith, gifts, and purpose God has entrusted to them. This conversation is an encouragement to anyone seeking to walk closely with God, listen to His Spirit, and step boldly into their unique calling.
 
Episode Highlights
Angela and Cassidy explore the context of 2 Timothy, focusing on Paul’s encouragement to Timothy to hold fast to sound teaching and not be ashamed of the gospel.
They discuss what it means to “guard the good deposit” through daily communion with God, renewing the mind, and living out the gifts and calling God has given each believer.
Cassidy offers practical ways to keep the Holy Spirit at the center of daily life-including prayer in ordinary moments, meditating on scripture, and walking in step with God’s guidance.
The episode concludes with Cassidy’s testimony of how God called her to embrace her purpose, and a reminder that every believer is invited and equipped to walk out their calling, no matter their season or background.
 
Great Quotes
“When you’re living in the light with God, you don’t have to worry about your life because your life is entrusted to him.”
“You might feel like you’re not qualified, but you are through him. You might feel like you’re not ready, but you are through him.”
“The Holy Spirit… helps us know what is true and what is not true, so we’re able to see the counterfeit.”
“You are invited no matter your circumstances, no matter how far it looks from the situation, how far you feel from somebody. You are still invited there through God and you have a purpose.”
 
Resources Mentioned
 
•Scripture Focus: 2 Timothy 1:14 
•Related Passages: Hebrews 12, 2 Corinthians 10:4-5, Romans 10:9-10
 
Related Episodes
Ep. 7: “Power, Love, and Sound Mind” (Amanda Scarborough) 
Ep. 5: “Chosen to Produce Fruit” (Na’Kedra Rodgers) 
Ep. 14: “Rooted and Built Up” (Lisa Meiners) 
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Do you ever feel like fear or anxiety keep you from doing things? 
Sarah Griffiths Hu, author and speaker from British Columbia, joins Angela to discuss Proverbs 3:5-6 and her journey of learning to trust God through every season. With decades of ministry experience, Sarah shares how surrender, faith, and daily dependence on God have shaped her resilience and joy. Whether in grandparenting, ministry, or the mundane, Sarah’s story encourages listeners to trust God’s wisdom above their own and to walk courageously in His ways.
 
Episode Highlights
The conversation explores the structure and purpose of Proverbs, emphasizing its poetic wisdom for daily living and the difference between promises and general truths.
Angela and Sarah unpack Proverbs 3:5-6, discussing what it means to trust God with all your heart, not lean on your own understanding, and know Him in every aspect of life.
They talk about practical ways to acknowledge God daily-from prayer and gratitude to seeking forgiveness and standing up for justice.
Sarah shares her personal testimony of returning to faith after a season of wandering, and how God used Proverbs 3:5-6 to call her into deeper trust and surrender.
Great Quotes
“For me personally, it means no matter what is happening in my life to know that I can trust God with everything, even if everything is falling apart.”
“You can’t follow His ways unless you know His ways… and that’s done through prayer, through trusting Him day by day, through knowing that He is faithful and building that relationship.”
“It is actually, I find, easier to forget to trust Him when life is good.”
“We need to grow more and more dependent in our spiritual life.”
Resources Mentioned
Scripture Focus: Proverbs 3:5-6 
Sarah’s Website: sarahgriffithshu.com
Sarah's Socials: @sarahgriffithshu on all platforms
Sarah's book: Courageous Trust *this is an affiliate link
Related Episodes
Ep. 6: “The Steadfast Love of the Lord” (Kim Cusimano) 
Ep. 9: “God Sings Over You” (Karen Dorsey) 
Ep. 2: “Walking by the Spirit” (Cally Logan)
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Do you long for a life of peace? Join us this week as we discover how God gives us peace through His grace.
Julie Sanders, partnership developer for Live Global and longtime friend of Angela, brings her global perspective and deep love for Romans to this episode. Together, they dig into Romans 5:20-21, exploring how God’s grace not only meets but overcomes the depth of human brokenness. Julie shares how this truth has shaped her life, her ministry, and her understanding of peace, hope, and purpose-even in a world marked by suffering.
Episode Highlights
Julie explains how Paul’s letter to the Romans lays out the contrast between law and grace, and why Romans 5 is a message of hope for anyone longing for peace with God.
They discuss how the law was given to reveal our need for a Savior, not to condemn us, and how God’s grace “hyper-abounds” over every kind of sin and brokenness.
Julie shares how studying her own family history led her to see that “where sin multiplied, grace multiplied even more”-and why this gives hope for every generation.
The conversation explores what it means to let grace, not guilt or comparison, shape our relationships and our view of ourselves.
Julie offers practical encouragement for living out the truth of Romans 5:20-moving from striving and self-reliance to resting in the peace and purpose that only Jesus brings.
Great Quotes 
“Where sin abounded, grace abounded all the more. It was hyper abundant beyond what I can even imagine.”
“No other religion offers that kind of a loving rescue from the one who made us.”
“God knows exactly what you’re like and there’s no one else that loves you like he does or desires for you to find reconciliation as much as he does.”
“The law shouldn’t make you feel completely helpless. The law should help turn your heart towards Jesus.”
“God has provided this merciful, creative, loving, sacrificial way that we can overcome the death that our ancestor Adam gave us as an inheritance.”
Resources Mentioned
•Scripture Focus: Romans 5:20-21
•Related Passage: Galatians 3:24
•Julie’s Website: juliesanders.org
•Devotional: “Expectant” (for new moms, available on Amazon. Affiliate link.)
 
Related Episodes
•Ep. 8: “We Do Not Lose Heart” (Laura Acuna) 
•Ep. 4: “Anticipating God’s Goodness on Earth” (Sara Cormany)
•Ep. 9: “God Sings Over You” (Karen Dorsey)
 
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Has your relationship with God ever felt stagnant or shallow? 
 
Lisa Meiners, founder of Deeper Still Ministries, Christian speaker, author, and Bible teacher, joins Angela to explore Colossians 2:6-7. Lisa shares her passion for helping believers move beyond surface faith to a deeply rooted, overflowing life in Christ. Together, they discuss how spiritual growth is a lifelong journey, why discipleship matters, and how gratitude naturally flows from a life built on Jesus.
 
Episode Highlights
The conversation unpacks the context of Colossians, focusing on Paul’s encouragement to stand firm in the truth and supremacy of Christ.
Lisa explains the importance of discipleship and why following Jesus is an ongoing journey, not just a one-time decision.
Angela and Lisa discuss what it means to let your roots grow deep in Christ and to build your life on Him for stability in every season.
The episode explores how a life rooted in Christ naturally leads to gratitude and impacts others through everyday interactions.
Great Quotes 
“Colossians is more than what a flannelgraph board could ever represent for our faith.”
“You must continue to follow him… Discipleship is an ongoing journey, not a one-time decision.”
“Let your roots grow down into him… There’s a permission, there’s a surrender, there’s an action in that word ‘let.’”
“When we’re rooted in Jesus, we can’t help but continue to grow and to be built up and to continue to become more and more like Jesus because our roots are in him.”
“If my coffee cup overflows, it’s because I have so much delicious coffee in there that the cup can’t hold it.”
Resources Mentioned
 
•Scripture Focus: Colossians 2:6-7
•Deeper Still Ministries: deeperstillministries.com
 
Related Episodes
Ep. 9: “God Sings Over You” (Karen Dorsey) 
Ep. 2: “Walking by the Spirit” (Cally Logan)
Ep. 8: “We Do Not Lose Heart” (Laura Acuna) 
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Kristi Lowe, host of the Even If podcast, joins Angela for a vulnerable and hope-filled conversation on Psalm 126:5-6. Kristi shares how grief, disappointment, and even “hot mess” seasons can be holy ground when we let God till our hearts and trust Him with our tears. Together, they explore how joy and sorrow often coexist, and how God’s faithfulness brings a harvest-sometimes in ways we never expect.
Episode Highlights
•Sowing in Tears
•Joy and Sorrow Together
•Letting God Do the Growing
•What Are You Planting? 
•Becoming and Belonging
 
Great Quotes 
“Those who sow in tears will reap with songs of joy.”
“There is sadness and beauty, there is joy and there is heartache. And they just coexist and they are at peace with being in each other’s presence.”
“God tells us to plant and to harvest. He never tells us to grow. That’s His job.”
“All He really wants is us to trust Him and then to say thank you. And sometimes the thank you is the hardest thing to say in the darkness.”
“Every little step that we make, every tiny step we make towards the Father, He blesses us beyond measure for it.”
 
Resources Mentioned
Scripture Focus: Psalm 126:5-6 
Kristi’s Podcast: Even If Podcast
Kristi's Website: kristilowe.com
Related Episodes
Ep. 8: “How to Never Give Up” (Laura Acuna) 
Ep. 9: “God Sings Over You” (Karen Dorsey) 
Ep. 4: “Anticipating God’s Goodness on Earth” (Sara Cormany) 
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Holly Piorkowski, counselor, infertility survivor, and leader with Twelve 12 Ministries, joins Angela to share her journey of holding fast to hope through heartbreak, loss, and the unexpected beauty of God’s faithfulness. Holly’s story and her life verse, Hebrews 10:23, offer practical encouragement for anyone struggling to see God’s hand in the waiting or the pain.
Episode Highlights
Choosing Unswerving Faith: Holly describes clinging to Hebrews 10:23 after miscarriage and infertility.
What is Real Hope? Discussion on biblical hope.
God’s Faithfulness in the Dark: Holly’s testimony of how God showed up in small ways during her hardest seasons
Telling Your Story: The importance of sharing testimonies so others know God is still working
Great Quotes 
“I would say it through tears, through anger. And I’d be like, I know you’re gonna be faithful. Whatever that looks like.”
“If you don’t know the Lord, I feel like you don’t really know what hope is.”
“Ask the Lord to show up for you in the tiny details or just ask him to show up in your day and he will do it. And that is him. That is him pouring into your hope and being faithful to you.”
 
Resources Mentioned
Scripture Focus: Hebrews 10:23 
Twelve 12 Ministries: twelve12ministries.org 
Purpose Beyond Motherhood Podcast (co-hosted by Holly and Nicole from Twelve 12 Ministries)
 
Related Episodes
Ep. 4: “Anticipating God’s Goodness on Earth” (Sara Cormany)
Ep. 7: “We Do Not Lose Heart” (Laura Acuna) 
Ep. 3: “Faith, Salvation, and Grace” (Cortney Stanton) 
 
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Ryan Scantling, senior pastor at Eastside Baptist Church and PhD candidate in evangelism, joins Angela to unpack Genesis 45:6-11. Through Joseph’s story, Ryan reveals how God both delivers and sustains us—even in life’s darkest valleys. Learn how this passage anchored Ryan through personal loss and reshaped his view of God’s faithfulness.
 
Episode Highlights
Joseph’s Redemption: How betrayal, slavery, and leadership in Egypt mirror Christ’s work (Genesis 45:6-8).
Bitterness vs. Purpose: Why Joseph’s “It wasn’t you, but God” reframes life’s injustices.
Sustenance in Suffering: Ryan’s testimony of losing his sister at 18 and finding hope in God’s daily care.
For the Spiritually Dry: Practical ways to trust God’s sustenance when faith feels barren.
Great Quotes 
“Bitterness is bricking up your windows to avoid pain—but it keeps out the fresh air too.”
“God doesn’t just deliver you from hard times—He sustains you through them.”
“Faith is like film. It develops best in the dark.” (Adrian Rogers)
Resources Mentioned
Key Passage: Genesis 45:6-11 (CSB)
Related Scripture: Colossians 1:13-14 (transfer from darkness to Christ’s kingdom)
Related Episodes
Ep. 6: “The Steadfast Love of the Lord” (Kim Cusimano)
Ep. 5: "Chosen to Produce Fruit" (Na'Kedra Rodgers)
Ep. 2: “Walking by the Spirit” (Cally Logan)
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Kathy Howard, author, Bible teacher, and self-proclaimed “treasure hunter” of God’s Word, joins Angela to unpack Galatians 2:20. Kathy shares her journey from religious duty to a life transformed by Christ’s indwelling presence. Discover how dying to self and living by the Spirit brings true freedom, purpose, and radical obedience to God’s calling.
 
Episode Highlights
From Rule-Following to Relationship: Kathy’s decades-long struggle with empty religiosity and her breakthrough moment in a Romans Bible study.
Galatians 2:20 Explained: What it means to be “crucified with Christ” and live by faith, not works.
Daily Surrender: Why dying to self is both a one-time decision and a daily practice.
Spiritual Growth Check: How to discern if you’re walking in the Spirit or clinging to self-effort.
The Role of Scripture: Why knowing God’s Word is essential to hearing the Holy Spirit’s guidance.
 
Great Quotes 
“Christianity isn’t about doing all the right things. It’s about giving Jesus your whole life.”
“The cross represents Christ’s full obedience to God—and that’s what it means for us too.”
“If I’ve died to myself, it’s Christ in me living out His purposes. My old ways? I’ve shoved them aside.”
“True faith isn’t intellectual assent—it’s active trust in where Jesus leads.”
“God’s Word is our plumb line. Without it, we’ll convince ourselves of anything.”
Resources Mentioned
Kathy’s website: kathyhoward.org
YouTube channel: Deep Rooted Faith (Bible study tips and devotionals)
Kathy's Books: book pages
 
Related Episodes
Ep. 6: “The Steadfast Love of the Lord” (Kim Cusimano)
Ep. 8: “Power, Love, and Sound Mind” (Amanda Scarborough)
Ep. 4: “Anticipating God’s Goodness” (Sara Cormany)
 
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