Life As Worship
Where we dig into God’s Word to discover what it means and how we can live it out to bring God the glory. Through interviews we will discover different ways God has called different people to live out His Word so their lives are an act of worship.
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Have you ever been doing your best to honor God, and still found yourself in a hard season, quietly wondering where His blessing went? In this solo episode, Angela gently explores Philippians 1:29–30 and Micah 6:8, and how God's blessings reach far beyond health, wealth, or comfort. You'll be encouraged to see His presence and His eternal promises even in difficult days, and to consider how He may be inviting you to love and serve others right where you are.
Description
If you're walking through a difficult season, it doesn't mean God has forgotten you or held back His blessing. Angela reflects on how easy it is to measure God's goodness by our circumstances, and points us to the deeper gifts we have in Him: a restored relationship with God through Jesus, the Holy Spirit living in us, and the hope of eternity.
As she prepares to move to a new community, Angela shares how this truth is shaping her desire to serve her neighbors. It's an invitation to rest in God's goodness when life is hard, and to let doing justice, loving mercy, and walking humbly with Him become everyday worship.
Episode Highlights
Why health, wealth, and success are not reliable measures of God's blessing or our faithfulness.
What Philippians 1:29–30 says about suffering for Christ, without encouraging us to seek out suffering.
How protecting our comfort can keep us from loving neighbors and entering into their messy, difficult lives.
How Micah 6:8 is prompting Angela to explore ways to serve her new community.
Great Quotes
"When we are so busy protecting our comfort, we aren't serving others."
"The fact that we can do things on this planet that matter for eternity—that is the biggest blessing of all."
"When we're suffering and experiencing hard things, that doesn't mean we're not experiencing God's blessing."
Resources Mentioned
Philippians 1:29–30
Micah 6:8
Related Episodes
What Does God Require? Do Justice, Love Mercy, Walk Humbly – A deeper look at Micah 6:8 and what it means to live it out.
Suffering and Eternal Glory, How Can Suffering Bring Glory? – How God uses hard seasons for a purpose beyond what we can see.
When Obeying God Doesn't Make Sense: Following Him Wholeheartedly with Lynn Jackson – Trusting God when obedience leads somewhere unexpected.
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Sep 29, 2026
Sep 29, 2026
32 min
Do you ever feel like parenting, work, or a hard decision depends entirely on you getting it right? In this episode, Angela and J. Harrington discuss Romans 8:11 and what it means that the Spirit who raised Jesus from the dead lives in believers. You’ll be encouraged to ask for His help in ordinary moments, even when the answer does not come the way you expect.
Description
Angela welcomes author and ministry leader J. Harrington to explore Romans 8:11. While writing Swords Up, J. paused over the truth that the Holy Spirit lives in believers, and it changed how she approached fear and the demands of daily life.
J. shares what asking for the Spirit’s help looked like when she faced an unfamiliar task at work and when she realized her words at home needed to change. Together, Angela and J. discuss prayer, correction, and the wisdom of seeking help from trusted people too.
Episode Highlights
Romans 8:11 speaks of the Spirit living in believers now and God’s promise to give life to their mortal bodies.
J. shares how recognizing the Spirit’s presence changed the way she thought about fear and spiritual warfare.
Asking the Holy Spirit for help can be practical, whether you are tackling unfamiliar work or trying to speak patiently with your children.
The Spirit’s help may include showing us where we need to change and leading us toward wise people who can help.
Great Quotes
J.: “We are not alone in any of the things that we do—not in our parenting, not in our jobs, not in our calling.”
Angela: “Call for help. Call for backup.”
J.: “The Holy Spirit will totally check you.”
Resources Mentioned
Romans 8:11
Ephesians 1
Swords Up: Mastering the Weapons of Spiritual Warfare for Today’s Christian Woman – J.’s book on spiritual warfare.
Overwhelmed Working Mom – J.’s podcast.
J. Harrington’s website – jpharrington.com, for her book, podcast, and newsletter.
Related Episodes
Walking by the Spirit with Cally Logan – A conversation about keeping in step with the Spirit in daily life.
Absolutely NOTHING Can Keep You from God’s Love – Another conversation rooted in Romans 8 and the security believers have in God.
Gentleness and Respect: A Guide for Conversations – Encouragement for speaking with care when conversations are difficult.
Newsletter Invitation
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Sep 22, 2026
Sep 22, 2026
21 min
Are you in a season of change—moving, saying goodbye, grieving, or waiting—and wishing you could see how it all works out? In this solo episode on Daniel 2:21, Angela Mackey unpacks what it means that God changes times and seasons, and why He gives wisdom for the step in front of you rather than the whole road ahead.
DescriptionIn this solo episode, Angela Mackey digs into Daniel 2:21: "He changes times and seasons. He removes kings and sets up kings. He gives wisdom to the wise and knowledge to those who have understanding."
She sets the verse in its context—Daniel and his friends in the first exile, Nebuchadnezzar's impossible demand, and Daniel's prayer of praise after God revealed both the dream and its meaning—then looks closely at what "times and seasons" actually means: the moments that matter and the activity God has for His people in them.
Angela also shares her own season of transition and what it looks like to trust God when He lights up only one step at a time.
Episode Highlights
Daniel 2:21 sits inside a prayer of praise, right after God revealed Nebuchadnezzar's dream and its interpretation to Daniel in a vision of the night.
"Times" points to moments—someone's moment in time—while "seasons" points to activity: the thing God has for you to do right now, not just summer, winter, or fall.
God removes and sets up kings, so His authority over seasons is not only personal; He can be trusted with who holds power and who does not.
God gives wisdom to the wise and knowledge to those who understand, and He gives it for the season you are in—not for five miles down the road.
Great Quotes
"He knows the moments in time, and He knows the activities that you need to be doing in those times, and He changes them for you."
"God is like, 'I know what is in the darkness. You don't. But when you need to know, I'll light it up for you.'"
"He's only giving me wisdom for one step at a time—not for thousands, not for millions, not even for a few days down the road."
Resources Mentioned
Daniel 2
Romans 8:28
Psalm 34:18
Psalm 56:8
Philippians 4:8
Omega Writers Conference – Adelaide, Australia, October 2026.
Speak Up Conference – Angela joins the faculty in 2027.
Write to Publish – Angela joins the leadership team.
Related Episodes
Facing New Seasons without Fear: Trusting God to Make a Way – Courage for stepping into what is next when the path is not clear yet.
Led by Cords of Love: Trusting God's Guidance in Hard Seasons – How God leads with kindness when a season is confusing or heavy.
When Life Feels Hard: Finding Purpose in Every Season – Finding God's purpose in seasons you would not have chosen.
God's Boundaries, Calling, and Hope in Every Season – Trusting God's timing and calling as seasons shift.
Newsletter InvitationWalking into a new season? Join the Life as Worship newsletter for a monthly Scripture-rooted devotional, reflection questions, and practical tools for everyday worship. Subscribe and get the FREE 10-Minute Thought Filter at http://eepurl.com/h3Nafz.

Sep 15, 2026
Sep 15, 2026
29 min
Do you ever feel the pull to go along with whatever is trending—at work, with friends, or on your phone—even when you know it is not how God is calling you to live? In this episode on Romans 12:2, Megan Feveryear and I talk about refusing to be shaped by this age and letting God renew your mind so you can discern His good, pleasing, and perfect will.
DescriptionThis week I sat down with Megan Feveryear—writer, creative communicator, and storyteller—to linger in Romans 12:2. It is a verse I have built much of this ministry on: do not be conformed to this age, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind.
Megan shares how that verse pushed her to leave everything familiar and move more than 600 miles to Nashville. We talk about community that helps you keep going, the small daily choices that actually renew your mind, and why not every good thing is God's best.
If you have been wondering what is shaping you, this conversation is for you.
Episode Highlights
Every day offers a chance to conform—at work, online, and in what is trending. God calls us to live higher, even when that means being misunderstood.
You will be shaped by God or shaped by the world. The question is what you are listening to and thinking about.
Transformation is a daily process. Picking up Scripture first and last, instead of your phone, renews your mind in a way social media never will.
A renewed mind helps you discern God's will. In the Christian life, good things are not always the best things.
Following Jesus sometimes means stepping out of the boat—leaving home, saying no, setting a boundary, or sending the hard text—because His will is good, pleasing, and perfect.
Great Quotes
"I would rather be misunderstood and represent Christ well than not be misunderstood."
"If you wake up and pick up your Bible, then close out your day with God, that's transformative to your mind."
"Trust that God has a story better than your own. Don't give in to what culture is trying to tell you to do right now."
"Christianity is probably one of the only religions where good things are not always the best things."
Resources Mentioned
Romans 12:2 (CSB) – Do not be conformed to this age, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, so that you may discern what is the good, pleasing, and perfect will of God.
Galatians 2:20 – I have been crucified with Christ, and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me.
John Mark Comer – Mentioned for the idea that we will either be shaped by God or shaped by the world.
This Day Ministry – Megan's website, thisdayministry.org, with her devotionals, podcast, and social links.
Fully Known – Megan's 14-day devotional and workbook on being fully seen and loved by God.
Rumors of a Savior – Megan's Advent devotional.
This Day Podcast – Megan's podcast of real-life stories with real people.
Meg Feveryear on social media – Search Meg Feveryear, or start at thisdayministry.org if the last name is hard to spell.
Related Episodes
Winning the War in Your Mind: Taking Every Thought Captive with 2 Corinthians 10:3-5 – More on letting God reshape your thoughts instead of letting the world fill them.
Permissible and Beneficial: How God Is Calling Us to Live in Freedom – Learning to live from God's truth rather than culture's pressure.
Facing New Seasons without Fear: Trusting God to Make a Way – Courage to step out of what feels safe when God is calling you forward.
Newsletter InvitationIf this episode made you ask what is shaping your mind, I would love to keep walking with you. Join the Life as Worship newsletter for a monthly Scripture-rooted devotional, reflection questions, and practical tools for everyday worship. Subscribe and get the FREE 10-Minute Thought Filter at http://eepurl.com/h3Nafz.

Sep 8, 2026
Sep 8, 2026
18 min
Have you ever been in a season that feels hard, uncomfortable, or just not quite right—and wondered if there could be a purpose in it? In this solo episode, Angela discusses Hebrews 12:7 and how God can use hardship, change, and even the mundane parts of life to train and grow His children. You’ll be encouraged to endure your current season with hope, trusting that God is still at work in you.
Description
Some seasons bring grief, change, unanswered questions, and a tension you cannot quite explain. In this solo episode, Angela reflects on Hebrews 12:7 and the truth that God’s discipline is not only correction; it is also loving training that prepares His children for what is ahead.
Through the picture of a butterfly struggling out of its chrysalis, Angela shares why endurance matters in hard, good, and ordinary seasons. This episode will encourage you to grieve honestly, keep going faithfully, and trust that God is growing you toward wholeness, maturity, and a life that brings Him glory.
Episode Highlights
Why Hebrews 12 uses the word discipline to describe both correction and the training of a loving parent.
How “endure” applies not only to suffering but also to ordinary, repetitive, and frustrating parts of everyday life.
Why God may use grief, transitions, rest, and uncomfortable seasons to prepare us for what comes next.
The butterfly and chrysalis picture: struggle is often necessary for growth and strength.
How lament and grief are not the opposite of endurance; they can be part of faithfully walking through a hard season.
Great Quotes
“Endure it as training. Endure it as a way to become better and stronger and prepared for what God has for you next.”
“If you are not grieving and lamenting, you are often not able to experience the endurance you need so that you can be trained up in the Lord.”
“God is always growing us. He is never leaving us to rot, but He wants us to grow and change and become more and more like Him.”
Resources Mentioned
Hebrews 11 – The “Hall of Faith,” highlighting people who trusted God without seeing every promise fulfilled in their lifetime.
Hebrews 12:7 – Enduring as God’s children through His loving discipline and training.
Jeremiah 29:11 – God’s plans for His people include hope, flourishing, and wholeness.
Related Episodes
Running with Endurance: Fixing Our Eyes on Jesus with Dr. Whit Jordan – A conversation on Hebrews 12:1–2, perseverance, and keeping your eyes on Jesus.
Trusting God: Our Rock and Refuge with Shelley Picard – Encouragement to find God as your refuge when life takes an unexpected and difficult turn.
We Do Not Lose Heart with Laura Acuna – Hope for hard seasons when the full story is not yet visible.
Newsletter Invitation
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Sep 1, 2026
Sep 1, 2026
32 min
Do you ever struggle to trust God when life is hard and nothing looks like the plan you hoped for? In this episode, Andy Lee unpacks Jeremiah 29:11 and shows what this familiar verse really means for believers in difficult seasons.
DescriptionThis week I sat down with my friend Andy Lee—author, Bible teacher, speaker, and host of the Beloved and Becoming podcast—to talk about Jeremiah 29:11. Andy shows that this verse was a letter to people in exile, not a promise of an easy life, and she shares from her own hard seasons how we can still trust God by seeking Him right where we are. If you have ever struggled to trust God when life is hard, this conversation is for you.
Episode Highlights
Jeremiah 29:11 is a letter to people in exile. It is not a promise of an easy, prosperous life.
"Prosper" here means peace, wholeness, and flourishing—not a bigger house or an easier path.
God can use even the hard things. We can have the moanies, or we can have a testimony.
Trusting God when life is hard starts with seeking Him right where we are, not waiting for a better season.
Great Quotes
"We are going to face seasons that are hard. And when we do, we have to remember that He is good and that His plans are good for us."
"We can have the moanies, or we can have a testimony."
"Even the hard things, He's working out for your shalom."
Resources Mentioned
Jeremiah 29:11
John 10:10
Psalm 23
Andy's website – wordsbyandylee.com, for monthly Bible reading plans and more of her teaching.
Beloved and Becoming podcast – Andy's podcast and YouTube channel.
Andy's newest book - From Failure to Faith
Related Episodes
Led by Cords of Love: Trusting God's Guidance in Hard Seasons
Facing New Seasons without Fear: Trusting God to Make a Way
Trusting God: Our Rock and Refuge
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Aug 25, 2026
Aug 25, 2026
15 min
Have you ever felt like difficult circumstances have interrupted your life and stolen your sense of peace? In this solo episode, Angela discusses Psalm 27:4 and how dwelling with the Lord, gazing on His beauty, and seeking Him can help us trust God when pain, limitations, and unanswered questions remain. You’ll be encouraged to remember that God is good, present, and worthy of your trust—even in a season you would not have chosen.
Description
When chronic pain, unwanted rest, and unanswered questions disrupt life, it can be difficult to know how to trust God and find peace. In this solo episode, Angela reflects on Psalm 27:4 and David’s one desire: to dwell with the Lord, gaze on His beauty, and seek Him.
Angela shares why our bodies matter to God and how seeking Him in His Word helps us remember His goodness in hard seasons. This episode is an invitation to bring your real struggles to God, dwell with Him daily, and find peace as you learn to trust Him in the middle of circumstances that have not changed.
Episode Highlights
Why caring for our physical bodies can be part of worship, even when pain or illness raises more questions than answers.
David’s one desire in Psalm 27:4: to dwell with God, gaze on His beauty, and seek Him.
How difficult circumstances can reveal what we most want from God—and invite us to seek His presence, not merely relief.
Why we will never reach the end of God’s beauty, goodness, wisdom, and wonder.
Simple ways to seek God daily through Scripture, meditation, and responding to the Holy Spirit’s guidance.
Great Quotes
“I want to do my best to take care of the temple I have so that I can worship and honor God in this physical body.”
“We will never come to the end of the mysteries, beauty, and wonder of who God is.”
“The more we dwell in the house of the Lord, gaze on His beauty, and seek Him, the more beauty, joy, and peace we will experience.”
Resources Mentioned
Psalm 27:4 – A call to gaze on God’s beauty and seek Him.
1 Corinthians 6:19–20 – Our bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit and belong to God.
The Book of Psalms – Songs and prayers that help us bring fear, pain, praise, and trust before God.
Related Episodes
Running with Endurance: Fixing Our Eyes on Jesus with Dr. Whit Jordan – Encouragement to keep looking to Jesus and persevering through the race before us.
Trusting God Our Rock and Refuge with Shelley Picard – Finding God as refuge and deliverer in the middle of unexpected hardship.
Never Giving Up with Laura Acuna – Hope for seasons when life feels overwhelming and the full story is not yet visible.
Newsletter Invitation
If this episode encouraged you to trust God in difficult circumstances, I would love to keep walking with you. Subscribe to the Life as Worship newsletter for a monthly Scripture-rooted devotional, reflection questions, practical tools for everyday worship, and occasional resources to keep you grounded in God’s truth. Subscribe and get the FREE 10-Minute Thought Filter at http://eepurl.com/h3Nafz.

Aug 18, 2026
Aug 18, 2026
39 min
Have you ever wondered whether your gifts, calling, and contribution truly matter in God’s kingdom? In this episode, Jamie Hulker walks us through Genesis 1:26–28 to show that God created both men and women in His image and entrusted them to serve His purposes together. You’ll be encouraged to use the gifts God has given you and to live out your calling as an act of worship.
Description
Angela sits down with author, teacher, and Here for You ministry director Jamie Hulker to explore Genesis 1:26–28. Jamie shares how a closer look at this familiar passage changed her understanding of identity, calling, spiritual gifts, and the way men and women serve God together. As they discuss God’s image bearers, spiritual fruitfulness, and the significant roles women play throughout Scripture, Jamie offers hope for anyone wondering whether their contribution matters. This conversation will encourage you to use your God-given gifts for His glory and for the good of others.
Episode Highlights
God created both men and women in His image, giving each person inherent worth and a meaningful place in His work.
Genesis 1–3 is the foundation of Scripture, helping us see God’s design, humanity’s fall, and His plan of redemption.
The plural language in Genesis 1:26–28 shows that God blessed both men and women and entrusted them to steward creation together.
Fruitfulness is not limited to marriage or parenting; every believer is called to use their gifts and bear spiritual fruit.
Jamie shares how studying Scripture for herself reshaped her ministry, marriage, and understanding of women’s significant roles in God’s redemptive plan.
Great Quotes
“What the Bible says is that male and female were created in the image of God.”
“We are all image bearers of God. We have all been given responsibility, and responding to that as He created us to be is worship.”
“If God has called you to do something, do it, and do it with everything you have, because that’s worship.”
Resources Mentioned
Genesis 1:26–28
Colossians 1:15
Matthew 22:34–40
Esteemed: God and His View of Women
Entrusted: Women in God’s Redemptive Plan
Jamie Hulker – jamiehulker.com
Related Episodes
Known and Loved: Remembering Who You Are in Christ with Elizabeth May Bennett – A reminder to ground your identity in what God says is true about you.
Chosen to Produce Fruit with Na'Kedra Rodgers – Encouragement that fruitfulness belongs to every believer, not only those who are married or have children.
Permissible and Beneficial: How God Is Calling Us to Live in Freedom with Brandice Lardner – Learning to live from God’s truth rather than extra rules about what calling must look like.
Newsletter Invitation
If this episode reminded you that your gifts and calling matter to God, I’d love to keep walking with you. Subscribe to the Life as Worship newsletter for a monthly Scripture-rooted devotional, reflection questions, practical tools for everyday worship, and occasional resources to keep you grounded in God’s truth. Subscribe and get the FREE 10-Minute Thought Filter at http://eepurl.com/h3Nafz.

Aug 11, 2026
Aug 11, 2026
12 min
Are you standing at the edge of a new season — an empty nest, a new job, a child starting kindergarten or heading off to college, or caring for aging parents — and feeling more afraid than excited? In this first regular solo episode, Angela shares how Isaiah 43:19 has been speaking to her own life this month and what it means to trust God when everything feels like it's changing. You'll walk away with permission to stop looking back and start watching for the new thing God is already doing.
Description
In her first regular solo episode, Angela opens up about the season she's walking through right now — she just moved her youngest into college and is stepping into empty nesting. She shares the verse God keeps bringing back to her heart lately: Isaiah 43:18-19.
Angela unpacks the context behind this promise, written to an Israel caught between turmoil and comfort, and shows how it speaks directly into today's new seasons — kids starting school, career changes, caregiving for aging parents, or even personal struggles like unforgiveness or addiction. Whatever season you're facing, this episode is an invitation to stop clinging to the past and trust that God is doing something new and making a way for you too.
Episode Highlights
Angela shares why this is her first regular solo episode and what she hopes to offer by opening up about her own walk with God alongside guest interviews.
Isaiah 43:19 — "I am about to do something new... I will make a way in the wilderness, rivers in the desert" — reveals a God who is always working, even in seasons that feel uncertain.
Isaiah 43:18 warns against clinging to "the things of old," reminding us we can miss what God is doing now if we're too busy looking back at the past or at our own plans.
No matter the season — empty nesting, a new job, caregiving, forgiveness, or breaking free from an addiction — God promises He will make a way.
Great Quotes
"Look, I am about to do something new. Even now it is coming. Do you not see it? Indeed, I will make a way in the wilderness, rivers in the desert." (Isaiah 43:19)
"Sometimes we miss out on the season because we're too busy looking back at what we thought we had, or we're too busy looking at our dreams and what we wanted, and we don't see what God is giving us."
"God is not a God who changes who He is. He's the same yesterday, today, and forever."
Resources Mentioned
Isaiah 43:18-19 – God's promise that He is doing something new and will make a way in the wilderness and rivers in the desert.
Philippians 4:8 – the foundation for Angela's free "10-Minute Thought Filter," offered to newsletter subscribers.
Related Episodes (from Life as Worship)
Led by Cords of Love: Trusting God's Guidance in Hard Seasons – Another reminder that God gently leads us through seasons we didn't choose, just as He's making a way in this episode.
God's Comfort in Suffering: Voices in the Wilderness – A closer look at how God meets us with comfort in our own wilderness seasons.
Be Strong and Courageous: Finding Courage When You're Afraid – Encouragement for facing the fear that comes with a new and uncertain season.
Newsletter Invitation
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Aug 4, 2026
Aug 4, 2026
33 min
Do you ever feel lonely, overlooked, or pushed to the edges—and wonder where God is in the middle of it? In this episode, we walk through the Judah and Tamar story in Genesis 38 and see how God met a desperate, misunderstood woman and brought breakthrough and redemption out of a very messy situation. As we unpack Judah’s transformation and Tamar’s place in Jesus’ family line, you’ll be invited to trust God’s redemption in your own story and to notice the lonely and overlooked people around you.
Description:
Angela sits down with pastor and mentor Leslie Schonfeld, family life pastor at Lake Point Community Church, to explore the surprising story of Judah and Tamar in Genesis 38. Starting in Matthew 1, Leslie noticed the five women in Jesus’ genealogy and was especially drawn to Tamar, whose desperate choices were made inside a culture that gave her almost no options. Together they trace Judah’s sin, Tamar’s courage, and the moment of repentance that marks Judah’s heart-change—then connect it to how God still redeems lonely and overlooked people today. You’ll come away with fresh hope for your own story and simple, practical ways to notice and walk with the “one on the outskirts” in your everyday life.
Episode Highlights:
Why Leslie started with Matthew 1, noticed the five women in Jesus’ genealogy, and zeroed in on Tamar’s name.
A concise retelling of Judah and Tamar’s story and why Tamar’s shocking choices made sense in her cultural context.
How Judah’s confession, “She is more right than I,” marks a turning point of conviction, repentance, and breakthrough.
Practical ways to notice lonely and overlooked people and offer safe, listening spaces—whether that’s in church, at the coffee shop, or through curious DMs on social media.
Great Quotes
“Tamar’s story reminds me to look for the lonely person, the one who feels rejected or abandoned, and to walk alongside them so they don’t have to turn to desperation.”
“Judah’s words, ‘She is more right than I,’ are a come-to-Jesus moment before there was Jesus.”
“Introverts often see people more than anyone else because they know what it’s like to be on the edges. We aren’t asking you to be the life of the party; notice the one person.”
Resources Mentioned:
Genesis 38 – Judah and Tamar’s story of sin, desperation, and God’s surprising redemption.
Matthew 1:1–17 – Jesus’ genealogy that includes Tamar among the five women named.
Ruth 4 – The blessing that mentions Tamar and Perez, pointing to God’s ongoing work through their family line.
Dragonfly Ministry – Leslie Schonfeld’s website with resources on intergenerational ministry and her upcoming book on the five women in Jesus’ genealogy.
Related Episodes:
Seeing God’s Faithfulness: How To Trace His Covenant Love In Our Lives – Reflections on God’s covenant love and faithfulness across generations, even when life is hard.
Praising God When He Gives And When He Takes – Encouragement to worship God in both joy and loss, when your circumstances do not make sense.
Gentleness And Respect: A Guide For Conversations – How to speak truth with gentleness and respect, especially in hard or controversial conversations.
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How Do We Faithfully Live a Christian Life?
Angela and her friends will help you answer those questions as they dive into God's Word to find out what it really means. Then they discuss the creative ways God has called them to live out that scripture.
This podcast will challenge you to rethink your thinking in light of what God says in His Word. As your thinking changes, you will have the opportunity to partner with the Holy Spirit that your life may be transformed to be more like Jesus.








