Life As Worship

Experiencing Joy through God's Presence

Feeling caught between longing for deep joy and living in circumstances that don’t feel joyful at all? This episode walks right into that tension with Psalm 16:11 and the lived wisdom of bestselling author and speaker Carol Kent.
 
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Angela and Carol unpack Psalm 16:11 and explore how to experience God’s joy when life is painful, uncertain, or very ordinary. Through stories of calling, long obedience, and walking with her sister through stage‑four cancer, Carol shares how God reveals His path, how His presence brings real (not pretend) joy, and how eternity reshapes the way we see today.
 
Episode Highlights
Why Psalm 16:11 became a life verse for Carol when she was desperate to know God’s will and not “waste her life.”
How God makes His “path of life” known in everyday faithfulness instead of a tiny moving “dot” you’re afraid to miss.
Practicing God’s presence: unhurried morning coffee with Jesus, praying with “eyes wide open,” and turning ordinary encounters (even in prison visitation rooms) into moments of worship.
Joy in sorrow: walking with her sister through terminal cancer while anticipating the “welcome committee” in heaven and clinging to the promise of “pleasures forevermore.”
The “already and not yet” of joy—tasting God’s pleasure now as you use your gifts for Him, and knowing that joy will “explode” in eternity when you see Jesus face to face.
Quotes
“True joy is found in God’s presence, not in our circumstances.”
“God is not trying to hide His will under a rock somewhere—He actively reveals the path of life as we seek Him.”
“Look in the rearview mirror of your life and notice the marker moments where God led you—you’ll see He’s been faithful all along.”
“When we find our niche and use it for kingdom glory, everything else just doesn’t compare.”
Scriptures Mentioned
Psalm 16:11 
Psalm 16:1
Resources & Ways to Connect
Carol’s Website & Books: carolkent.org – including When I Lay My Isaac Down, He Holds My Hand, Staying Power, Tame Your Fears.
Speak Up Conference: Training for Christian speakers, writers, and leaders.
Speak Up for Hope: Nonprofit serving inmates and their families.
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How Rejoicing in God's Presence Helps Overcome Anxiety

How can rejoicing in God help overcome anxiety?
 
In this episode of Life as Worship, Angela talks with Dr. Gladys Childs—pastor’s wife, author, former religion professor, “boy mom,” and host of the TV show Bare Faith, where raw faith and deep pain meet a relentless God. Together they unpack Philippians 4:4–5 and explore what it really means to “rejoice in the Lord always,” to let gentleness be evident to all, and to cling to the nearness of God in seasons of anxiety, grief, and uncertainty.
 
Episode Highlights
In chapter 4, Paul moves into a string of tender commands—“rejoice,” “let your gentleness be evident,” “do not be anxious”—showing that the Christian life is not denial of pain but defiant faith rooted in an unchanging God.
Rejoicing vs. happiness:
Happiness depends on what’s happening; it rises and falls with circumstances.
Joy is anchored in who God is—His unchanging goodness, faithfulness, and presence—so it can exist in the middle of prison, grief, caregiving, and long seasons that “do not let up.”
Practical rejoicing: Gladys describes being naturally anxious and control‑oriented, and how anxiety pulls her into “I have to fix this.” Learning to pause, tell God the truth about her fear, and remind herself “the Lord is near” begins to loosen anxiety’s grip and re-center her on communion with God rather than control.
Great Quotes from the Episode
“Happiness reacts to the moment, but joy responds with truth.”
“Whatever the worst thing is that we can imagine, the last thing is never the worst thing when Christ is part of it.”
“When I wallow, I go down a deep dark hole and start making decisions I shouldn’t. Rejoicing redirects my attention from ‘I must control this’ to communion with God.”
“Our witness is so much bigger than we can ever imagine. In the difficult times, when we’re really in tune with God and gentle with others, we make the most powerful witnesses for Christ.”
“Life is for the living. God doesn’t want you stuck in grief forever; He wants you rejoicing in what He gave and resting in where your loved ones are now.”
Scriptures Mentioned
Philippians 4:4–5 
Philippians 4:6–9 
Lamentations 3 
Connect with Dr. Gladys Childs
Website & Resources: gladyschilds.com – learn more about Bare Faith, her books, speaking, and free tools to help you confront lies and live in God’s truth.
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Prayer: An Invitation to Release Worry

In this episode of Life as Worship, Angela is joined by her longtime friend, author and prayer mentor Rachel Wojo to explore Philippians 4:6–7 and what it really looks like to move from worry to prayer. Rachel shares how prayer became her lifeline through miscarriage, raising a medically fragile daughter, and eventually saying goodbye when her daughter graduated to heaven after 22 years. Together they unpack Paul’s command to “not worry about anything,” why “the Lord is near” changes everything, and how gratitude, honest lament, and praying God’s promises help believers experience the peace of God that guards hearts and minds in Christ.
 
Episode Highlights
The importance of the phrase “The Lord is near” just before verse 6: if God’s presence surrounds us, we don’t have to manufacture peace or carry life alone.
How gratitude rewires our thinking: when we actively thank God “in every circumstance and situation,” we can’t focus on worry and thanksgiving at the same time, and our hearts become more aware of God’s daily provision.
Why God is often more interested in changing hearts than changing circumstances—and how heart transformation can come before anything in life actually looks different.
Moving from “Why, God?” to “Show me how You’re working”: changing the question so we can see how God shows up and “shows off” in ways we might otherwise miss.
Practical encouragement on praying both our problems and God’s promises, trusting that He loves to keep His word and that His peace can stand guard over our hearts even when outcomes don’t match our expectations.
Great Quotes from the Episode
“Small things can bring much joy.”
“If Paul could write this from a dank, dark prison with his life at stake, surely I can learn to follow the pattern he lays out.”
“We cannot simultaneously be worried and thankful at the same time—our brains will not allow that focus.”
“God is always more interested in changing hearts than He is in changing circumstances.”
“You can look at that sunshine and wish you were outside, or you can be thankful for the sunshine that’s coming through the window.”
“When we pray the promises of God, we are affirming to ourselves: this is what I believe about the God I serve.”
“Will I recognize the miracle God is doing if it looks differently than what I have pictured it?”
Scriptures Mentioned
Philippians 4:4–9 
Philippians 1:21 
James 1:17 
Related Episodes
Episode 30 with Shelley Picard - Trusting God: Our Rock and Refuge
Episode 23 with Lisa Granger - Our Source of Living Water: God's Presence
Episode 13 with Kristi Lowe - How to Reap Joy When We Sow in Tears
Episode 4 with Sara Cormany - Anticipating God's Goodness on Earth
Connect with Rachel
Website: rachelwojo.com
Free Prayer Class: desperateprayers.com – “How to Be a Prayer Warrior for Your Family in Dark Times” (helps shift from being a worrier to being a prayer warrior).
Books:
Desperate Prayers
Additional forthcoming books on prayer and her “three-word prayers” approach.
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You Can Confidently Approach God

Angela welcomes author, speaker, Bible teacher, and biblical life coach Dawn Ward to discuss Hebrews 4:16 and what it really means to come “with confidence” to the throne of grace. Dawn shares the heart behind her ministry, Faith to Flourish, and her new book From Guilt to Grace: Hope and Healing for Christian Moms of Addicted Children. Drawing from her own story of growing up with an alcoholic father and then parenting sons battling addiction, Dawn explains how God used this verse to move her from fear, control, and performance into rest, trust, and practical dependence on God’s grace in times of deep need.
 
Episode Highlights
Context for Hebrews: a pastoral letter written to Jewish believers facing intense persecution, tempted to turn back to old religious patterns instead of holding fast to Jesus as their great High Priest.
Why it matters that Jesus is the “great high priest” who has passed through the heavens, suffered, and been tempted in every way—and how that makes Him uniquely able to sympathize with our weakness.
A rich look at Hebrews 4:16: coming with confidence (not arrogance, not shame) to the throne of grace to receive mercy and find grace to help in our time of need.
Dawn’s personal story: growing up with verbal abuse and alcoholism, becoming performance-driven and controlling, then having two sons struggle with addiction—and how her old coping patterns collapsed under that weight.
How God used this verse (and the broader themes of Hebrews 3–4) to invite Dawn out of unbelief, out of “fixing and rescuing,” and into resting, trusting, and focusing on Jesus rather than on circumstances.
Practical tools she now uses and teaches: “stop, drop, and pray” before reacting; pausing before sending the text or making the call; repenting quickly when she acts out of old patterns; and learning to climb into the Father’s “lap” rather than trying to manage everything alone.
Great Quotes from the Episode
“I knew grace as saving grace…but grace that strengthens us and helps us in our time of need—and we live that grace every day—this verse has become a life verse for me.”
“Since we have a great high priest who has passed through the heavens…hold fast to our confession. He’s not like any other priest out there.”
“Boldness is confidence in the outcome and in the promise and in the Person who’s making the promise.”
“I wasn’t living in God’s grace. I was living in this works mindset that believed, ‘If I pray harder, if I read enough Scripture, I can fix all of this.’”
“Jesus was saying: I’m working on them. I’m dealing with what’s going on over there, but I want to put my finger on the areas of your heart that are broken.”
“For the Marthas out there, it’s natural to jump into first-responder mode. But sometimes there’s more power in saying, ‘Lord, what do You want me to do—if anything? My eyes are on You.’”
 
Scripture Mentioned
Hebrews 4:14–16 
Philippians 2:12 
 
Related Episodes
Ep. 38 with Jennifer Sakata Grace for Us, The Thirsty
Ep. 22 with Susie Crosby God Gives Us All We Need
Ep. 19 with Bethany Broderick God Perfects: Finding Freedom from Shame
Ep. 5 with Na'Kedra Rodgers Chosen to Produce Fruit
Connect with Dawn
Ministry: The Faith to Flourish or DawnRWard.com
Social Media Facebook Instagram
Book: From Guilt to Grace: Hope and Healing for Christian Moms of Addicted Children (Sept 2024) - Amazon Affiliate Link
 
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Renewing Our Minds, Lives of Worship, and Abiding: How to End 2025 Well

In this special year-end episode of Life as Worship, Angela reflects on a hard stretch of years marked by grief, caregiving, big transitions, and unmet expectations—while also sharing the quiet, steady invitation God has been whispering to her heart: slow down and go back to what you already know. Rooted in Romans 12 and John 15, she unpacks why “rethinking my thinking” matters, what it means to live as a living sacrifice, and how abiding in Christ—rather than chasing new goals or slogans—is the way real transformation and a life of worship actually happen.
Episode Highlights
 Honest admission that 2025 didn’t go as planned: delayed episodes, heavy caregiving for her dad, a daughter moving overseas, hard news and losses, and the emotional ups and downs that followed.
Re-centering on Romans 12:1–2—offering our bodies as living sacrifices, resisting conformity to the age, and being transformed by the renewing of our minds so we can discern God’s good, pleasing, and perfect will.
Why her ministry is called “Rethinking My Thinking” and how Life as Worship fits under that umbrella: letting God reshape how we see Him, ourselves, and the world.
A reminder from Philippians to “live up to what we have already obtained” instead of constantly striving for the next thing, and an invitation to deepen what we already know to do.
Reflection on John 15:5 and Jesus’ words, “apart from Me you can do nothing”—what it practically means to abide, rest, and stay connected to the Vine in everyday life.
Encouragement that the Christian life is not about hyped-up self-talk or pulling ourselves up by our bootstraps, but about remaining in Christ and letting Him bear fruit in and through us.
A closing prayer over listeners’ new year: that 2026 would be marked by resting in the Lord, abiding in Him, renewed minds, and lives increasingly shaped as worship.
Great Quotes from the Episode
“Too often we get ourselves so stuck in wanting to get better, we never celebrate where we are now.”
“All of the mercies God has given us are worthy of living a life of worship, of living a life of sacrifice to the Lord.”
“How is the best way to do that? It’s to not allow our minds to be conformed to culture or this age, but to be transformed.”
“If we could just do the things that we know how to do… if we would just partner with the Spirit… our lives would be different.”
“I’m not telling you to get a better mindset. I’m telling you: remain in Christ. Abide in Him.”
“As we abide in you… it is you who will develop fruit in our lives—fruit that will glorify and honor you so that others will want to know you.”
Scriptures Mentioned
Romans 12:1–2 
Philippians 3:16 (paraphrased) 
John 15:5 
Related Episodes
Advent Week 1–4 (Hope, Peace, Joy, Love) – Foundational themes that flow into this call to live all of life as worship.
Ep. 2 with Cally Logan - Walking by the Spirit
Ep. 41 with Jackie Freeman - Strength When Our Souls Feel Weary
Ep. 42 with Debora Coty - Peace that Passes Understanding
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Advent: A Season Expectant with Love

In week four of the Advent series, Angela turns to the theme of love—not the sentimental, movie-style romance of Christmas rom-coms, but the deep, sacrificial love that costs something. Drawing on examples from stories like Harry Potter and, more importantly, from Scripture, she reflects on the God who is love, who knows our worst and still chose to step out of eternity, take on a frail human body, live the life we couldn’t live, and die the death we deserved. This episode invites listeners to sit in awe of that love, to trust it even in hard seasons, and to let it overflow into the way we love others.
 
Episode Highlights
Honest look at how our culture cheapens the word “love” and why our hearts long for a deeper, sacrificial love that says, “You are so valuable I will give up something for your good.”
Reflection on how human love—romantic, parental, or friendship—can be beautiful but also deeply imperfect, and why we can’t use those failures as the measuring stick for God’s love.
Remembering that God sees every part of us—our deepest fears, our darkest sins, the messes we hide—and still chose to die for us “while we were enemies,” giving us Christ’s righteousness as a gift.
Considering the mystery and humility of the Incarnation: Jesus spending nine months in a womb, coming as a fragile baby who needed to be fed, changed, carried, and protected.
Encouragement that even when life feels like it has “been out to get you and eat you alive,” God’s love has not changed, and His mercy, grace, and compassion are still aimed toward His people.
A beautiful reminder from Isaiah 30:18 that the Lord is “waiting to show you mercy and is rising up to show you compassion,” revealing His heart and character.
Closing prayer asking God’s love to sustain us, shape the way we walk through this world, and overflow so that others can know His love too.
Great Quotes from the Episode
“Somewhere deep down in our hearts, we long for a love like that—a love that isn’t about ‘what can I get for myself.’”
“God knows it all, and He still died for us.”
“So often we limit God’s love to what we understand or see on this planet.”
“He loves us so much that He moved heaven and earth to come to this planet, to live the life we couldn’t live and to die the death that we deserved.”
“Even if He’s allowing us to go through hard times, we can trust His love.”
“May we never, ever, ever lose the wonder of God’s love.”
Scripture Mentioned
1 John 4:7-21 
Romans 5:10
Isaiah 30:18
Related Episodes
Advent Week 1: Hope in the Dark 
Advent Week 2: Peace in the Discomfort 
Advent Week 3: Joy in the Broken World 
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Advent: A Season Expectant with Joy

Joy in Advent isn’t about pretending everything is okay; it’s about anchoring our hearts in the good news of Jesus right in the middle of a broken world.
 
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In week three of the Life as Worship Advent series, Angela reflects on the theme of joy and asks how it could possibly coexist with deep suffering, grief, and global brokenness. Looking at the shepherds in Luke 2—frightened, ordinary people on the bottom rung of society—she traces the angel’s announcement of “good news of great joy that will be for all the people” and unpacks what that means for us today. This episode invites listeners to find joy not in changed circumstances, but in the Savior who stepped into our darkness, gave us a right relationship with God, and promises to make all things new.
 
Episode Highlights
Honest acknowledgment that joy can feel impossible when life is marked by trials, violence, injustice, and personal pain.
A look at Luke 2:9–12 and the angel’s message to shepherds—why it matters that the first “good news of great joy” was announced to the lowly, not the powerful.
Clarifying that this joy isn’t a fake smile or denial of sorrow; it is rooted in the birth of a Savior, the Messiah, the Lord, who came for all people.
Exploring “anticipatory joy”: joy that looks ahead to eternity when all things will be made right, and “present joy”: the real, here-and-now joy of knowing and partnering with God today.
Encouragement that believers can experience joy even while grieving, questioning, and walking through wilderness seasons—because God is with us, loves us, and is at work in ways we can’t yet see.
A closing prayer asking God to help us rejoice in who He is, what He has done, what He will do, and what He is doing now in the dark.
Great Quotes from the Episode
“The angel was not telling the shepherds, ‘Hey, I’m gonna change your circumstances.’… He was telling the shepherds that he has great news—that Jesus was born.”
“We all need a God who is willing to step down from eternity into our lives… to live the life we couldn’t live, to die the death we deserve to die.”
“Not only do we get anticipatory joy that can leak into joy now, we also get to experience joy now because we have a relationship… We have a God who loves us and is working for us.”
“May we never grow tired or weary of that joy. May we always be in wonder of the love that God has given us.”
Scriptures Mentioned
James 1:2 
Luke 2:9–12 
Related Episodes
Advent Week 1: Hope in the Dark 
Advent Week 2: Peace in the Discomfort 
Ep. 40 with Jose Carrillo - Victory Through the Love of God
Ep. 22 with Susie Crosby – God's Gift of All We Need
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Advent: A Season Expectant with Peace

In week two of the Life as Worship Advent series, Angela turns to the theme of peace—shalom—in a world that feels anything but peaceful. She unpacks the rich biblical meaning of peace as wholeness rather than the mere absence of conflict, using vivid sports imagery and powerful Scriptures from Isaiah 11, John 16, and Romans 5. With honesty about her own recent struggles, she invites listeners to rest in God’s character, experience Christ’s peace in the middle of suffering, and long with hope for the day when Jesus returns and makes all things whole.
 
Episode Highlights
Naming the struggle: why peace is hard to come by in relationships, politics, our walk with God, and even within ourselves.
Exploring “shalom”: peace as a complex system firing on all cylinders—everything working together as it should.
Reading and reflecting on Isaiah 11:1–10 and the promised King from the line of Jesse who will bring perfect justice, heal creation, and unite even natural enemies in peace.
Jesus’ promise in John 16:33 that we “will have suffering in this world,” yet can have peace in Him because He has conquered the world.
Romans 5:1 and the good news that, being justified by faith, we already have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ.
Learning to “rest in the discomfort”: trusting God’s faithfulness, justice, and purposes even when life feels off, and believing He never wastes our tears or our pain.
A closing Advent prayer asking God to guard our hearts and minds with His peace that passes understanding as we wait for Christ’s return.
Great Quotes from the Episode
“That word peace doesn’t just mean the absence of conflict. It really has this idea of wholeness… that nothing is off.”
“We are looking forward to the wholeness of all of creation… made complete and whole by having the fullness of the knowledge of the Lord here.”
“Wait a second—Jesus is saying that we can have peace even in the midst of suffering.”
“God doesn’t waste any hard time. He doesn’t waste any tears. He’s going to use it all for His glory and for my good.”
Scriptures Mentioned
Isaiah 11:1–10 
John 16:33
Romans 5:1
(Referenced in closing prayer) Philippians 4:7 
Related Episodes
Advent Week 1: Hope in the Dark 
Ep. 26 with Meg Wilson - Finding Shelter Under the Wings of God
Ep. 18 with Nicole Clark - Rejoicing, Persevering in Affliction and Devotion to Prayer in Hard Times
Ep. 41 with Jackie Freeman - Strength When Grief Wearies Our Souls
 
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Advent: A Season Expectant with Hope

Does this Advent season feel heavy and hopeless?
In this Advent episode of Life as Worship, Angela reflects honestly on the tension of the “week of hope” when life feels anything but hopeful. She talks about walking through a season where “the darkness seems to hang tight,” even as we sing about “a thrill of hope” and wait for the baby born in Bethlehem. Through Isaiah 9, John 14, and Lamentations 3, Angela gently reminds listeners that Advent is about waiting in the dark with expectation—trusting that the light has come in Jesus and that He will come again.
 
Episode Highlights
Naming the reality: what it’s like to enter Advent when your heart is heavy, hope feels distant, and there are “hard times that have no easy answers.”
What Advent really is: a season of preparing our hearts and waiting expectantly for the Lord’s coming—remembering that He came once and will come again.
Isaiah 9:2 and the promise that “the people walking in darkness have seen a great light”—fulfilled in Jesus, God with us, stepping into our darkness.
Jesus’ words in John 14:2–3 and the sure hope that He is preparing a place and will come back to take us to be with Him.
Learning from Lamentations 3: the practice of honest lament, remembering suffering, then calling to mind God’s steadfast love, new mercies, and great faithfulness.
A gentle invitation: don’t “stiff arm God” in seasons of grief; draw near, lament honestly, and keep looking for even the smallest light of hope.
Great Quotes from the Episode
“We know this side of that prophecy…that light was Jesus—God with us—stepping out of eternity and putting on human flesh.”
“We have a hope that says that even in the dark hard times, we trust God to be who He says He is.”
“If your life is hard, if you are struggling in the dark, do not stiff arm God and stay away from Him. Instead, cry out to Him and lament in pain, in grief.”
“Even in the darkness, you will never stop looking for that small light of hope… The Lord is coming; let us be expectant.”
Scriptures Mentioned
Isaiah 9:2 
John 14:2–3 
Lamentations 3:19–24 
Related Episodes
•Ep. 33 with Robin Gerblick (John 10:10) 
•Ep. 41 with Jackie Freeman (Psalm 119:28) 
•Ep. 30 with Shelly Picard (Psalm 18:2) 
•Ep. 10 with Kathy Howard (Galatians 2:20) 
 
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Gentleness and Respect: A Guide for Conversations

Conversations about our worldviews can be challenging. Learn how to navigate these conversations well by approaching them with gentleness and respect.
Angela welcomes Jennifer Slattery, author, speaker, and co-host of the Faith Over Fear podcast, for a lively and deeply honest discussion on sharing faith in a skeptical world. Together, they unpack 1 Peter 3:15—how to honor Christ in your heart, be ready to share your hope, and speak truth with gentleness and respect. Jennifer shares stories about her faith journey, lessons learned as a mom and podcast host, and the beauty of hard conversations marked by humility, patience, and trust in God’s timing.
 
Episode Highlights
Together, Angela and Jennifer break down the context and content of 1 Peter 3:15, noting the deep need for hope, humility, and kindness—especially when faith makes you stand out.
Real talk on the challenge of living with “gentleness and respect,” what it looks like to check our pride, and why answering questions is less about having all the information and more about walking faithfully with Christ.
Angela offers a powerful nurse’s perspective: “When you come in with gentleness, that doesn’t mean you’re not saying the hard things… But you’re doing it with gentle hands.”
Their honest, humorous approach encourages listeners to embrace questions, honor God with honest doubt, and let the Holy Spirit guide both our words and our silence.
Great Quotes from the Episode
“I am experiencing incredible joy texting with a young adult family member who is actually an atheist… we are having the most intellectually stimulating…bonding conversation, even though we view the world completely differently.”
“In your hearts, revere Christ as Lord. So in my heart, is Jesus the boss? Am I letting him guide and rule my thinking, my actions, my priorities?”
“Pride feels good in the moment and it has terrible results, destructive results. But if I could remember, I don’t want to be standing in opposition to my Father.”
“It’s our hope that leads to the questions, not our anger, not our fear. And, please don’t mishear me—fear is a natural response… but our fear should drive us to Jesus, not to panic.”
“We often want to say, I have to tell you all the things…I have to tell you now. And we end up talking about 10,000 issues instead of one or two.”
Resources Mentioned
Scripture Focus: 1 Peter 3:15
Jennifer’s Website: jenniferslatterylivesoutloud.com
Podcasts: Faith Over Fear, Your Daily Bible Verse
Related Episodes
Ep. 35: Love Mercy, Do Justly, Walk Humbly (Penny Reeve)
Ep. 24: Telling and Going So Others May Believe (Travis Young)
Ep. 25: Publishing God's Good Works (Crystal Mayo) 
Ep. 15: Grace Abounds All the More (Julie Sanders) 
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